Abby’s Spanking Forum - www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/107983
‘George’ the Pervert’s Yahoo ‘Pants Club’! – www.yahoogroups.com - gascp1916
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featuring an introduction to Charles ‘goodfathr (sic)’ Gleason,
the spanking minister, of www.prospank.com (See our future Special
Report
on him).
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'Abby' finally admitted to us when we challenged 'her' that she was not a 'she ' at all, in fact, and was not a sexy young vixen with a nice line in bondage clothing either (surprise! surprise!) as is claimed on the associated website: abbysspanking.co.uk .
And the guy’s name was not 'Abby' either, but he thought it might have been the name of the person he was running the sites for (and collecting the money they are ripping off from the perverts - including a load of sick Brits - who are buying their canes, bondage gear, mucky videos and CD’s from the site by credit card!). How do you not be sure of the name of the person whom you are running a site for?
Very suss if you ask us!
He did tell us, however, that he was going to shut the board down due to Noncewatch’s attentions, so that’s yet another victory for us then!
Serves the perverts right if they got ripped off, we reckon, but in the interests of justice, we will be passing the crook's details to the FBI and the US tax office.
'Abby' did hotly deny, however, that he was a fat balding male truck driver aged 54 from Milwaukee (why do they always come from Milwaukee we wonder? - perhaps it's all the Miller's Lite beer they brew there?) when we suggested that he might be.
He did not like being called a tart either! He did not know who the tart with the sore bottom was who features as 'Abby' on abbysspanking.co.uk (the site is not even British but is a ‘co uk as they want to emphasis their Britishness re the caning and spanking of British public school kids!)
While it could be argued (as the Ianboy / Rondeau gang (see other reports) do continually, that they are just a bunch of harmless consenting adult perverts - so where's the harm? –Well, in fact, the reality of these seemingly harmless sites is much more sinister.
Abby's Spanking Forum was regularly (as are all these boards) frequented by paedophiles touting for members for their euphemistically named ‘BBB and P’ clubs. This rather innocent looking acronym stands for: 'Boys’ Bare Bottoms and Pants' (or just 'Pants Club' for short - shorts even!)
These are, like the Ianboy countbrassforum.net perverted board which we have just got shut down (see our reports on the Ianboy gang of nonces) dedicated to young boys for sexual purposes i.e. paedophilia.
The last person to try and set up a pants club by advertising for members on Abby's spanking forum was 'George', the well known pervert about town, who claims to be a retired headmaster with great experience of caning small boy's naked bottoms (and my name is Dr Arnold - the famous ex-head of Rugby School, didn't you know?). We got Yahoo to shut down Georges ‘Pants club', much to his annoyance!
When perverts wanted to join, they had to fill out a massive questionnaire, which George would vet carefully to measure their true level of perversity and to try and weed out all the law enforcement agents and journalists who were applying to join! (It is much easier to get into MI6, we reckon, particularly if MI6 takes arrogant traitorous lefty scumbags like David Shayler!)
One poster ‘Gillian’ (but who's to know if ‘she’ is a female even ?) suggested that she thought that she might have blown her chances of joining as, when asked on the application form: 'What would you do if you saw a school master caning a boy on his bare buttocks?' she wrote: 'Call the police!
We suspect that she might just have been taking the piss out of poor old ‘George’ here!
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My Group.........George
October 22 2002 at 12:31 AM
George
As so many of you seem interested in my group, the admin site is listed below. I have sent invites to all those that requested them, but some have been returned by the "postmaster"
The site below is the one that I use to check applications and ISP numbers. Those that flamed me on this site should not waiste their or my time in making an application.
Once applications are approved ( about 10 days) you will be invited to the main site. Members do remain on moderation until they have posted a few times.
The address of the admin site, that leads to my ( George) main site is
httt://groups.yahoo.com/group/gascp1916
Hope to hear from some of you on my main site
George
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Peter
Re: My Group.........George
October 22 2002, 5:55 AM
Hereunder is the page to which George refers.
I am pleased to see that there will be no 'flamming' but I am not sure if I want to be 'moderasted'.
Description Category: General
This is the site where membership to the site about school corporal punishment is sorted. NO POSTS ARE MADE TO THIS SITE.
When your application is approved you will be invited to join the main site.
The main site deals with school corporal punishment of boys from 1916. This includes punishment over clothing as well as the bare buttocks and hands.
The main site will talk and describe these fully. It also contains pictures from film and tv that show boys receiving corporal punishment. If such things offend please DO NOT proceed with your application.
THIS IS THE SITE ON WHICH GEORGE RE-TELLS WHAT IT WAS LIKE FROM 1916 to 1980.
It is up to members to decide if the posts by others are true. It is suppose to be asll true on the site but the line between fact and fantasy posts are hard at times to tell.
NO FLAMMING AT ALL WILL BE TOLERATED.
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Gillian
Application Form
October 23 2002, 6:20 PM
I must congratulate George for employing such efficient staff in the administration of his BBB&P Group. I asked for an application form and twenty seconds later it arrived!
I completed the form (it took about two hours) except for one question, which is:
‘If corporal punishment was still allowed, and you went into a school and saw a boy being whacked with trousers and pants down, what would your reaction be, and what would you do?”
My
instinctive response is “call the police” but such an answer might
lead to me being banned from the Group. Can anyone suggest an
alternative
reply? In return I am willing to help those who are having difficulties
answering any of the other twenty-eight questions.
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David
Re: Application Form
October 23 2002, 7:43 PM
Dear Gillian,
You are not the only one who is having difficulties with filling in George’s application form. I understand that the admin staff (Grandson Martin) has sent out several hundred forms but only a dozen or so have been returned.
I am stuck on the same question as you and also cannot decide what to write in answer to the final question which reads,
“How do you think you will contribute to the site” (no question mark).
David
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george
answer to question
October 23 2002, 11:07 PM
Your answer would not get you banned. In todays society such punishment may well not be tolerated. The question is designed to attract attention to the fact that rules, regulations and peoples reactions to corporal punishment are not the same now as then.
Of course the reply does also tell me a little about the person.
George
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Below is one of the many other threads about ‘George’.
[‘Jockie’ is an obnoxious Scottish ‘Braveheart’ style pervert who likes to tawse young girls and write in a ridiculous pseudo-Rabbie Burns style (‘nae’, ‘oor’ and ‘ye’ and all that sort of bollox) - Rab. C. Nesbit more like!
Crap
like this, in fact:
So it was you!!!!!!!!!
August 15 2002, 2:29 PM
I
knew I had seen that low-flying pig frae that Latin Forum before!
By the way, ah wisnae offering ye a drink .....ah wis trying tae get
ye wi ma empty!!!
Jockie.
PS. Ah see we are no getting tae post on the Latin place afore they check all ra comments.....I wonder if my seething message will ever be seen lol!!!
Jockie ]
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George the fake headmaster:
October 24 2002 at 8:12 AM
Sarajane
Many readers will be aware that 'George' (the infamous fake headmaster
with an obsession for telling lies about a totally imaginary career
spent
caning small boys' bare bottoms) is opening a new Yahoo group for
fellow
paedophiles.
Is there a reader of this forum who is unaware of recent cases involving horrendous crimes against young children? I doubt it.
Is there a reader who'd like his/her name on a list of persons with a declared sexual interest in children? I doubt that too.
However, given that George's group is dedicated to the taking down of young boys' trousers and given the nature of today's high-tech police activity, members should be in no doubt that their email addresses will be transmitted to the relevant authorities almost as quickly as they are transmitted to George himself.
Readers who have an interest in young boys' bare bottoms and who have no objection to their names appearing on a police list of persons with an interest in child sex should lose no time in applying for membership.
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Jockie
New Job Sarajane???????
October 24 2002, 9:16 AM
The
world o Advertising and Public Relations will never be the same
now that ye are helping George !!!
Ah bet ye have started a queue at his club already.
However on a more serious note, I see there is not enough funding tae
investigate all the 7000 odd names the FBI provided tae Scotland Yard.
Now that is shocking and means more children are at risk!
Jockie.
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Sarajane
Re: George the Fake Headmaster
October 24 2002, 6:55 PM
Like many people with unacceptable and potentially criminal sexual tendencies, George is in denial.
He says his site is 'not only' about caning young boys' bare bottoms. He says there's lots of factual documents there as well.
It may come as a surprise to him, but no amount of factual content and no amount of entirely innocent content detracts from the central issue - his site's interest in caning the bare bottoms of infants.
It is, of course, not a crime to fantasise about such things. It's not even a crime to belong to a group that discusses such things.
However, when young children go missing or are assaulted by unknown persons, the police like to have names of addresses of people in the area who are known to have an 'interest' in children.
Make no mistake, the police have been informed about George's group and watching it. If you join, your full name and address will be known to the authorities and you'll probably be in line for a visit the next time anything untoward happens to a child in your area.
Oh, and if you connect to George's site and view any of the factual documents and lovely photos of kiddies being beaten . . . you'd better hope your PC never breaks down and you have to leave it somewhere to be repaired.
Remember Gary Glitter?
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Dean
Poor old George
October 24 2002, 11:46 PM
Leave the poor chap in peace Sarajane. You buried him once, even wrote his obituary. Let him bore everyone senseless on his site without you excommunicating him from the human race. Nothing i have ever read has made me worry that he might be acting out his fantasies although i should of course hesitate to employ his services as a babysitter. Mind you i must admit my eyes do tend to glaze over after the first few hundred lines on the subject of preparing a boys bottom for whacking.
He is just a sad old bugger who can hardly string a sentence together if he wants to rabbit on about boys bare bottoms let him for goodness sake. I am sure all the policemen are busy enough without worrying about George and his fellow enthusiasts. At least we can be sure he will never get a teaching job with his highly individual orthography. So SJ pick on someone with an IQ your own size, if you can find anyone that is!
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Sarajane
Bye, Bye, George!
November 14 2002, 8:32 PM
And he's just been buried again, Dean.
His new group is now an ex-group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gascp1916
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Dean
November 16 2002, 1:20 AM
Well it’s nice to have you back with us Sarajane
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Noncewatch
'George' the Perv
November 16 2002, 7:31 PM
'George' the Perv was shut down by Yahoo after complaints from Noncewatch amongst others.
Yahoo does not like being a home for paedophiles and perverts
We particularly would like info (in confidence) on Colin Farrell, Alfred Legrand aka O'Coyle, 'Ianboy' of East Croydon, Steve Donne Davis and 'George' of course.
Any other nonces who we should be aware of?
Noncewatch
In
the following thread from Abby’s Spanking Forum , ‘George’ was
ridiculed
yet again:
The King of Fakes Returns!
September 16 2002 at 8:59 AM
Ivor
Rattan-Caine
Regular readers of CP forums will know 'George', the notorious fake
Headmaster who's posted hundreds of fake stories about all the boys'
bare
bottoms he's supposed to have caned during his lengthy but non-existent
and totally imaginary fake career.
Well, the old fraud is back from his summer hols and should be entertaining us with lots more hilarious lies in the very near future.
I
can hardly wait!
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Lazarus
George Whackem -Harder (retd Headmaster)
September 17 2002, 12:30 AM
I am sure i read his obituary somewhere, wasn't his grandson Martin going to keep the literary fires burning? If he is still alive he must be 90 at least!!
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Ivor Rattan-Caine
George (aka Martin)
September 17 2002, 6:42 PM
For a short time, George peddled his bum-whacking Headmaster fantasies on 'another Forum' before being exposed as nothing but a sad onanistic luster after boys' bare bottoms who's hardly ever set foot in a school as PUPIL, never mind as a Headmaster.
Having been shamed, disgraced and generally made to look like the silly old fraud he undoubtedly is, he left that forum vowing never to return - only to return almost immediately as 'Martin, George's grandson'.
Whatever
he calls himself, he's still a fake who lives by a lake.
In the following thread, in which Sarajane humiliates George yet again, is featured the actual lengthy application form which perverts had to complete before they would be considered for membership of George’s paedophile club. How would you get on filling it out (if you had the patience, that is) , do you reckon?
George's
group - and the authorities.
October 24 2002 at 8:01 AM
Sarajane
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George's group - and the authorities.
October 24 2002 at 8:01 AM
Sarajane
There cannot be a reader of this forum who is unaware of recent cases involving horrendous crimes against young children.
Given that George's group is dedicated to the taking down of young boys' trousers and given the nature of today's high-tech police activity, members should be in no doubt that their email addresses will be transmitted to the relevant authorities almost as quickly as they are transmitted to George himself.
Readers
who have an interest in young boys' bare bottoms and who have
no objection to their names appearing on a police list of persons with
an interest in child sex should lose no time in applying for
membership.
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George
Wrong again
October 24 2002, 3:25 PM
I do not know why Sarah you constantly have to put misinformation on this site about me. How do you know what my group is dealing with. You are not a member, nor are any of your buddies.
For your information it deals with corporal punishment. It deals with ALL kinds of corporal punishment. It is NOT a site that just deals with punishment on the bare bottom. The content of the site is along the same lines as most other sites that deal with this matter.
My site differs in two aspects. Firstly, members are vetted to see if they have destroyed other sites in the past by flamming members, so driving them away and making people scared to post on subject (just like this site) or outragious posts
Secondly, by providing factual material and extracts from punishment books. Sources being quoted so if members wish to check they can. It is a restricted site.
If members are scared to join my site because of police action then when considering some posts on this site, they would have already been arrested.
Sarah, to put it politely, why do you not shut up, and stop commenting on things like my site, where you are only guessing at the content in an evil and perverted manner.
May I remind those that have applied to my site for membership, that unless the application form is filled in, your membership will be rejected.
George
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Sarajane
Re: Wrong again
October 24 2002, 6:51 PM
Like many people with unacceptable and potentially criminal sexual tendencies, George is in denial.
It may come as a surprise to him, but no amount of factual content and no amount of entirely innocent content detracts from the central issue - his site's interest in caning the bare bottoms of infants.
It is, of course, not a crime to fantasise about such things. It's not even a crime to belong to a group that discusses such things.
However, when young children go missing or are assaulted by unknown persons, the police like to have names of addresses of people in the area who are known to have an 'interest' in children.
Make no mistake, the police have been informed about George's group and watching it. If you join, your full name and address will be known to the authorities and you'll probably be in line for a visit the next time anything untoward happens to a child in your area.
Oh, and if you connect to George's site and view any of the factual documents and lovely photos of kiddies being beaten . . . you'd better hope your PC never breaks down and you have to leave it somewhere to be repaired.
Remember
Gary Glitter?
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Anonymous
Re: Re: Wrong again
October 24 2002, 7:07 PM
George
is your site dedicated to the bare bottom pummelling of boys?
are there any interesting references to girls being ass spanked?
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Peter
Hope to be a Member
October 24 2002, 7:18 PM
Yes! Yes! Yes! I want to join!
I have only a passing interest in boys’ bare bottoms but I love reading about boys’ pants. (The word ‘pants’ occurs twice in the application form).
Why are there so many questions on the application form, George? I don’t know how to answer number twenty-four which is:
Would a picture of a boy in a school situation receiving punishment on his bottom offend you if
it was over his trousers or at least pants_________
if it was suggested or showning (sic) ther (sic) bottom was bare_________
Could you possibly provide a model answer to this question? I don’t want to be excluded from the most exciting group on the Internet just because I have never seen such a picture and cannot imagine one.
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Banned from Pants Club
Help for Potential Members
October 24 2002, 7:48 PM
My application was rejected, but I have since learned the correct answers to the most difficult questions and here they are –
Q3.
Pantophilia
Q12. The 17.18 from West Worthing
Q13. Round his ankles
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Proud Member
That Application Form in Full
October 24 2002, 8:20 PM
You are all being very unkind to George. There is nothing wrong in an eighty-four year old man running a Pants Club.
For clarification and the avoidance of doubt I reproduce here below the application form.
From: "gascp1916 Moderator" <gascp1916-owner@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: File - application form
PLEASE
TAKE TIME AND CARE IN FILLING IN. INCOMPLETE FORMS ARE THE MAIN
REASON FOR REJECTION.IT WILL TAKE ABOUT 10 DAYS TO PROCESS YOUR
APPLICATION
AS CHECKS ARE MADE. THE FACT THAT YOU MAY BE ANTI CP WILL NOT BAR YOU
FROM
MEMBERSHIP
In which country do you live________________
How old are you________________Are you male or female______________
What name will you be posting under______________
Did you attend state or private school________
In which country was this___________________
Did you ever receive CP. If so what_____________
Was it used at your school__________________
Are you broadly for or against cp for boys________________
Would you support boys being caned , at school, on the bare
buttocks_________
How often do you think caning was done bare (never/very rare/a few
times/ 50/50 / mostly/ nearly always pre 1950 in state schools_____
private
schools_______ 1950 to 1970 in state schools________ private
schools_________
1970 to 1990 in state schools_______ private schools_________ after
1990
in state schools_________ private school_______
VERY IMPORTANT...list all school CP sites to which you belong and the
name and EM address under which you posted.
Why do you want to join this site?
Have you yourself ever administered corporal punishment?
If corporal punishment was still allowed, and you went into a school
and saw a boy being whacked with trousers and pants down, what would
your
reactions be, and what would you do
Are you offended by accounts of boys receiving cp_________
Would a picture of a boy in a school situation receiving punishment
on his bottom offend you if it was over his trousers or at least
pants__________
if it was suggested or showning ther bottom was bare______
Do you think picures of boys receving cp should be included in such
a site if it shows it being administered to
the boys hands_________ a clothed bottom________ a bare
bottom__________
How do you think you will contribute to the site
ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT ANSWERED MAY RESULT IN YIOUR APPLICATION BEING REJECTED
George
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George
Rejection
October 25 2002, 12:02 AM
You say you have been rejected from my site. Very interesting this. NOBODY has yet been rejected.
Clearly you think you have. I challange you to post your em address on this site, the one you used for your application and a copy of the rejection note that you were sent.
Members that have been approved to the admin site, and waiting membership to the main site can check this. The rejection and approval notes are sent out on an automatic system. The notes can be found in the file section of the admin site.
Post the information in the next couple of hours or admit you have lied.I rather suspect you are either Sarahjane or one of her buddies.
George
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George
Picture
October 25 2002, 12:11 AM
Just use commonsense with your answers. The questions are on the admin site so that nobody is in the slightest doubt as to the faxct it deals with corporal punishment both over clothing and bare. That way nobody has a complaint that they joined the site not knowing its content.
As to the questions about pictures the reason is simple. I want a site where members feel at ease to talk about CP. Some may feel that pictures of boys receiving cp in 1916 offensive. Some pictures of later years, of boys being caned may be regarded by some as offensive. The questions are aimed to make sure nobody has joined the main site and be unaware of its content or be offended. It is not a fetish site just showing boys bottoms, like some of you seem to suggest.
George
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George
Wrong again
October 24 2002, 11:54 PM
Once again you are wrong about pictures and the Gary Glitter case.
Why wo you proceed in putting such false information on the site. How do you know what photographs are on my site.
Come on Sahar. A simple "Yes" or "no". Have you visited the main site. If you have you should be able to post in the next few hours the address of the main site.If you do not post it, then clearly Sarah you are just talking a load of rubbish like you have in the past.
As for Gary Glitter case, he was found out when he took his computer to PC World for repair. Why was he in trouble. The pictures showed children having sex and being abused in other ways. None of the pictures on my site fall into this grouping.
As for my Yahopo profile, do you really think I would be stupid enough to put the right post code. I may be old, but even I know that post codes are directly linked to houses and these records are easy to obtain.
Sarah post the address of my site, confirm that you have seen the pictures within the next couple of hours or admit you are nothing but a trouble maker.
For
the information of others on this site, the application form only
requires you to be honest. No one answer will, unless outragious result
in membership being denied.
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Gillian
Women
October 25 2002, 7:36 AM
I
have at last completed the application form, but before I submit it
can George tell us how many women there are in the group? I don’t want
to be the only one.
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Sarajane
Re: Women
October 25 2002, 9:20 AM
There can be no credible answer to the question 'How many women are members of the group?' as many men use women's names when using sex/fetish websites.
A little common sense may bring you close to the answer, however.
Just ask yourself how many women have an interest in caning the bare bottoms of primary school boys. If we exclude those with serious mental problems, the answer will be pretty close to zero.
Now, ask yourself how many women want their names on a Home Office list of persons with a sexual interest in children. If we exclude those with serious mental problems, the answer will BE zero.
You
can ask the above two questions about men too. The answers will
be very similar.
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Steff
Re:
Re: Women
October 25 2002, 10:42 AM
...But if you ask 'how many women have an interest in observing and then deriding the absurd pretensions of sexually desperate men willing to go to any ends to make fools of themselves in the pursuit of their goals'... the answer might be somewhat larger.
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George
repeated question
October 25 2002, 2:10 PM
I notice you have not answered my simple question. You claim to know all about its content, its messages and the photos.
I say you are LYING. You have NO IDEA at all as to what is on the site. You are just a sick vindictive women.
The proof is simple. It cannot harm you at all. You say you know what is on the site, therefore you must be a mermber and have visited it.
PUT THE ADDRESS OF MY SITE, NOT THE ADMIN ADDRESS,ON THIS SITE.
If you cannot then it proves you have never visited the site and my comments about you being sick and vindictive must be true.
George
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George
Re: repeated question
October 25 2002, 4:34 PM
Uh, uh, hello little boys, its uncle george here, I've come to play with your little pink bottoms. Uh, uh let uncle George play with you and he will let you play with his little willie. uhh uhh please let uncle George spank your little pink bottoms uhh, uhh,
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Ex-moderator
A plea to George
October 25 2002, 6:20 PM
Dear George,
I used to be a moderator of this forum but since it closed down I have spent the long lonely evenings thinking about your Pants Club.
You were, for me, the star of this Network54 forum; your writing a shining light amidst an ocean (or a desert) of double and triple negatives, of unfinished sentences, of thoughts that lie too deep for words. I used to look forward to your posts, for you write with great authority and compassion about a subject of which you have a profound knowledge. I greatly admire your drole sense of humour.
George,
I care about you, and it is for this reason that I ask you most
earnestly to reconsider the future of your group. Sarajane is right:
the
authorities will undoubtedly take an interest in your activities. Close
down the group now, before it is too late. Please continue posting here
where you have a devoted readership to whom you have brought something
that they could not possibly find elsewhere.
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George
Member
October 25 2002, 11:56 PM
Why do you keep calling it Pants Group. It is nothing of the kind. You are basing this on a lot of misinformation that you have been reading. Most of this seems to come from Sarahjane. She has again made stastemernts about my group.
I have challanged her over 24 hours ago to post the address of my group, not the admin group, to this sight. At least it would prove she has seen it and is a member.
Has she done so. No.
Why? All she can do is lie and make things up about me and hide behind names. The reason she has not poasted the address is simple. She has not visited the site and has no idea as to its content. She is stalling in the hope she can find the address from somebody else.
Simply fact is, that unless she posts it in the next few hours it is clear she does not have it and therefore is nothing but a sick, vendictive lady. A danger on any site.
COME ON SARAH. I CALL YOUR BLUFF. NAME MY SITE TO PROVE YOU HAVE BEEN ON IT. IF NOT FACE THE FACT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVED TO BE LYING AND DISCREDITED OVER THIS AND MANY OTHER POSTS YOU HAVE MADE.
WELL. POST THE ADDRESS .
George
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Karen
Re: member
October 26 2002, 7:38 AM
It
is known as the ‘Pants Club’ to detract from the harsh realities
of what the group is really about – the ritualised beating of the naked
bottoms of boys of primary school age.
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George
Re: Re: member
October 26 2002, 2:33 PM
A question for you as well Karen. As far as I am aware you are not a member of the group so how can you comment on the content. If I am wrong, prove it, but posting the address of the site.
Just like Sarahjane (if you are not one of the same) you cannot post the address because you nor any or your buddies are members.
In other words you are just lying about my site, but why?
If you and Sarahjane, along with any other names that are used complain and may statements about this site here, then prove you know what you are talking about by posting the address. If not do everybody a big favour and shut up.
You have 24 hours to post the address. After this it will prove you are lying, yes, lying. You are just stalling in the hope you can get it from somebody, which of course will be easier as membership expands.
COME ON POST THE ADDRESS OF MY SITE NOW OR SHUT UP AND ALLOW THE REST OF THE GROUP TO SEE YOU IN YOUR TRUE LIGHT. PEOPLE WHO JUST LIE TO DESTROY OTHERS.
George
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Karen
Re: Re: Re: member
October 26 2002, 3:55 PM
You
are quite right, George, I am not a member of your group and should
not have commented upon the content thereof. There are many that I know
of who are longing to be members, but are concerned that discussions
may
involve the subject of ‘the ritualised beating of the naked bottoms of
boys of primary school age’. Could you confirm for us please that this
is not the case?
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George
Ritual
October 27 2002, 3:27 PM
As in all my posts the details have been about why boys were caned and the situation thatr led up to, and the conditions that prevailed in society and my office at the time of punishment. NEVER have I or ever will give a stroke by stroke account of a caning. I may discuss the marks left by the cane as this was one of the main concerns of those against cp.
Of course CP of boys will be discussed, but not only of juniors. The site deals with boys up to 16. Those that feel cp is wrong and should never have been allowed in the first place, may find the site offensive. This being part of the reason for the long application. Those that want to find out how things were, certainly prior to 1960 and are prepared to accept that some of their misconceptions were wrong, may find this site of great interest. \The site concentrates on why boys were caned or slippered, and what made it "acceptable" in my area but not in others. Indeed, I have always stated that my state school was in a small minority when it came to bare caning. This was due to special social conditions which are fully explained on the site.
George
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George
very sick
October 25 2002, 11:48 PM
I think some member on this site must be very sick to use my name, make out it is me and write such rubbish. As Sarah says the authorities would ge interested. Do remember that it will be your ID that vshows up, not mine. If you think my group may be in danger of closing then with posts like this, then this one will go first.
George
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Proud Member
A Model Answer
October 26 2002, 3:21 PM
Our leader, George, has failed to provide model answers to the difficult questions on the Pants Club application form. I have, therefore, in the hope of attracting more members, have taken it upon myself so to do regarding the final question.
Q. How do you think you will contribute to the site?
A. From 1965-1975 I were a teacher at a all boys jnr school in the Midlands. I used to do all my own whacking and I was known as being strict but fare. On the wall of my classroom I had a list of offenses and the punishment what was given eg. Talking in class without my permission was 2 stokes and Not doing no homework was 4 strokes. All strokes were cane strokes and was given on the boys bare bottoms.
All canings I did at the end of the school day. The boys what was to be caned lined up in an orderly fashion (and them what was not orderly got extra strokes) facing the side of my desk. They walked up to the desk one by one and when they got there they dropped there trousers and then they drooped their pants and then they bent over the desk and then I caned them with a ten second pause between each stroke and then they cried and then they said ‘thank you, sir’ and then they went home and had their tea.
I
did canings every day so I have a load of stories to tell the group.
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Proud Member
Another Model Answer
October 26 2002, 4:48 PM
Q. Why do you want to join this site?
A. Because of what’s happening with all the other sites I have seen. Steff’s group is just a lot of women lesbianating; The Abyss is a lot of lonely men like Jams doing fantasies; The Knee-trembling group is politically to the right of Oswald Mosley; this present forum [SCP] has been closed down by Ralphy who made snide comments and Fran has left; your old group from the emartinius institute got shut down by the Yahoo lot; Steven0898 group is on its knees; I’ve been banned from Friends Reunited for including a reference to fun slippering at Roedean and to top it all, not one of these groups has any stories about pants.
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Peter
A Welcome from George
October 27 2002, 8:16 AM
From:
"gascp1916 Moderator" <gascp1916-owner@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: File - welcome
Welcome.
This site is for approval to the main site which deals with
corporal punishment of boys from 1916 to 1980. This is a factual site,
and contains the memories of "George". Members are encouraged to post
their own accounts.
Members
should be aware of the following points before proceeding with
their application.
-the
site re-tells how it was in the past. Those that feel corporal
punuishment was only used on the hands or trousers may find the
accounts
of punishment to a boys bare bottom offensive. Offensive in the sense,
that because they did not think it was ever done bare in state or
private schools.
-the site does NOT deal with girls or boys OVER 16
-the
site contains pages from punishment books. Where possible full
details have been given as to where these can be checked. For records
less
than 50 years old changes, due to privacy act will have been made.
-the
site also contasins pictures from film and television of boys
receiving corporal punishment at school. Members are invited to add
to this
collection. Those that find pictures of boys receiving corporal
punishment on hands or buttocks (covered or bare) may prefer not to
proceed
with application.
-all members will be moderated until they have made several posts.
-those
whose posts are clearly fantasy will be asked toleave as will
ANY member that flames another. Any complaints about the posts should
be
masde direct to the site owner.
-it
is hoped that members will contribute to the site abnd not just
lurk.
George.....site owner
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Potential Member
Boys only?
October 27 2002, 6:08 PM
George,
Will you allow any discussion of cp administered to girls?
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George
Boys only
October 27 2002, 6:57 PM
Sorry, at the moment this site will only deal with boys cp. If things work out well I may set up one dealing with just girls
George
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George
NO CHANCE
October 27 2002, 7:18 PM
A
pity, but you stand no chance of membership due to the way you have
filled in your application. Believe it or not, had you provided a
serious
response, you and others who are against CP would have been welcome.
All
the pictures are from film and video that can be obtained in any shop
selling
videos. )No not the back street ones) but WH SMITH m and others and
things
shown on main line television, not pas and view. No pictures that you
would
not see in general public viewing of so called respectiable films.
Other
pictures have come ftrom the DAily Mail and other widely read papers.#
Your mocking of spelling, posts and gibs are the thing that will make
sure you do not get membership. As stated members may question posts
but
flaming is not allowed.
You say you want to monitor the site to inform the authorities if we break the law. You must be one of the people that complasined about Colin Farrels site and many others that were closed. Their is NO LAW against talking in a factual/historic way about cp of children. (Yahoo however, seem to think they are a law unto themselves) If the content of my site would justify police action due to the posts, then this site and most of those you have named as being a member would fall into the same group.
I do find Steff it strange that somebody who, for reasons of their own to which they are entitled, belong to so many cp sites.
Could it be that the aim of membership is to destroy or act as an informer. If you act as an informer why have you not reported most of these sites to wehich you belong?
Could it be that you enjoy trying to cause trouble on sites, or more to the point that while you deny supporting CP you enjoy reading about it.
It
makes no sense to one that is anti cp to belong to so many sites
that are clearly supportive if cp. Indeed
some of the sites you list are in the directory. How they have not
been shut down is amazing. If you belong to these as does Sarahjane,
who
thinks membership to my site will result on the police knocking on
members
doors, then as some of these sites you list are very much about abuse
of
children and accounts (fantasy I hope) of the way they are punished,
you
both must be dreading the knock on the door from the police.
Strange you warn members about a non existant danger of calls from the police about joining my site, ydet both of you are members to highly suspect sites, that if a police list did exist would be miles higher on the investigation list than mine.
Do stop playing games.
George
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Sarajane
Re: NO CHANCE
October 27 2002, 8:03 PM
George says "Their is NO LAW against talking in a factual/historic way about cp of children" and he is right of course.
The irony is that even if there WERE such a law, it wouldn't affect George - because, as far as can be ascertained, he's never spoken or written a factual word about CP in his life.
He's nowhere near 86-years old.
He's never been a teacher.
He's never been a headmaster.
He's never caned a boy's bottom.
He's just a very very very sick man who thrives on the gullibility of paedo's and thicko's and other incorrigible onanists whose once proud (but now sadly shrivelled) members still experience just the faintest vestige of a tingle at the thought of a boy's bare bottom.
His own utter thickness is evidenced by his failure to comprehend that Steff is not against present-day CP involving consenting adults nor does she believe that CP of children in the past was in every circumstance a clear case of child abuse.
What
she does believe is that to use images of very young boys' bare
bottoms (whether those images be material or mental) for one's sexual
pleasure
is a sure sign of a not particularly healthy mind.
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Proud Member
A Model Application
October 27 2002, 8:33 PM
Dear, dear Steff,
Please ignore Our Leader’s rejection of your application for membership to the Group. George has a very drole sense of humour and this is just his way of saying, “Welcome to the Pants Club!”
I was most impressed by your application and advise all those contemplating joining to consider it a model answer. You are a true pantophile.
My respect for George increases daily. Not only is he a model railway enthusiast, but also a customer of W.H.Smith and a Daily Mail reader.
I hope you have a very happy birthday!
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Wavering Member
Boys only?
October 27 2002, 9:25 PM
Whassthematterwithyer,
George! Don’t cha realise that blokes want a
bit of wankin’ with their spankin’? And they ain’t gonna get it if you
don’t have cp of dollies and then members will drop off.
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Wavering Member
Boys
only!
October 27 2002, 9:27 PM
Goodonyer,
George Boy! Keep the Pants Club as M/m only! No self-respecting
bloke wants to read about girls in green knickers being slippered at
Wembley.
I’ll post my application here if that’s all right with you – Social
Service
Wankers may be bugging your e-mail.
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Steff
Re: NO CHANCE
October 29 2002, 9:35 AM
Dear George,
I wasn't asking you; but since you, in your usual witless ways, answered anyhow please let me (after expressing surprise at my - my - rejection from you group) continue this most amusing dialogue.
"A pity, but you stand no chance of membership due to the way you have filled in your application."
To begin, I thought you might find it of interest to know that Fowler and many other purists consider it rather bad form to use 'due to' unless it is immediately following the verb 'to be'.
"Believe it or not, had you provided a serious response, you and others who are against CP would have been welcome."
Does this mean that because of me others who are against CP are now not welcome, or was your writing just muddled, as usual?
"All the pictures are from film [sic] and video [sic] that can be obtained in any shop selling videos."
Well I suppose one wouldn't find videos at shops not selling videos, would one?
If this is the case then do you have any reason not to make the 'Photos' and 'Files' sections of your group open to public viewing?
"You must be one of the people that complasined [sic] about Colin Farrels [sic] site and many others that were closed."
Why don't you ask Mr Farrell whether I have been a help or a hindrance to his site?
"Could it be that the aim of membership is to destroy or act as an informer. [sic] If you act as an informer why have you not reported most of these sites to wehich [sic] you belong?"
Because so far as I can tell they do not attempt sexually to exploit real children or encourage those who would.
"Could it be that you enjoy trying to cause trouble on sites, or more to the point that while you deny supporting CP you enjoy reading about it."
What a clever man you are! So, you've finally got me figured out! I wonder if there are people who do not support murder or war but nevertheless enjoy reading about them? How encouraging to see that at your age you are still learning new things every day.
"Indeed some of the sites you list are in the directory. How they have not been shut down is amazing."
Could this be because they do not attempt to exploit real children, encourage those who would, or contain documented records of children being sexually exploited?
Since
the ostensible claims of your mind seem to be somewhat at odds
with the apparent ambitions of your proud member, perhaps the more
intelligent
of two could speculate on whether it's actually possible for a
functioning
adult to be so stupid, or if it just might be that someone is having us
on?
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Daniel Johnson
Membership
November 16 2002, 5:32 PM
George,
I do not get any sexual pleasure from the spanking of boys, but did grow up in the gae when it was accepted, and find it is a useful tool for maintaining discipline that has been taken away in too many situations (schools, many parents, etc.)
I would like to join your group for the support of this oft-overlooked and effective means of discipline.
Please email me with your website and I will send you an application.
My
email address is welstriped@hotmail.com
_____________________________________________________________________
Below is the following thread about George’s ‘pants club’ on another network54.com ‘spankers’ board which is still online.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=198833
George himself posted to this thread. He does not seem to like us much for some odd reason and we were not too surprised that we did not get a Christmas card from him!
This thread also makes references to Colin Farrell (colin@corpun.com) and his pervy corpun.com site which we have had shut down once and will, never fear Farrell, get shut down again!
Note also very tellingly, that the moderator of the board: ‘Nichonettes’ wishes George well with his new paedophilic club and tells him he can indeed advertise his ‘Pants club’ on their board!
We think that we will do a ‘nonce lovers’ feature on the host of this board and Abby’s board - network54.com:
We believe ‘Gillian’ to actually be Ianboy or one of his fellow queer male perverts from the Aflred Legrand gang
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BBB&P Group (edited version)
September 30 2002 at 11:01 AM
Ralphy
Several messages under the ‘Links’ thread refer to George’s new
group, the opening of which must surely be one of the most exciting
events
in the history of the Internet and deserves a thread of its own.
I look forward to reading your messages of congratulation, good wishes for the future of the group etc. Contributions from those on the BANNED list are particularly welcome.
George:
Please advertise your group here. We are confident of a long and happy association.
Edited by Nichonettes
This message has been edited by larry1951 on Oct 5, 2002 8:31 A
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The Peckham Poet
Re: BBB&P Group
September 30 2002, 6:05 PM
I am on the BANNED list but I still have great admiration for George. I have spent most of this afternoon reading his epic ‘Tricks of the Trade’ and after a spot of masturbation, turned to Alfred Lord Tennyson’s ‘Break, Break, Break’ which provided inspiration for the following:
BANNED,
BANNED, BANNED!
Why, I don’t understand.
For I never fanned a flame,
Unlike that Sarajane.
Congratulations to George on the formation of his Pants Group.
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Darwinian Man
Re: Re: BBB&P Group
September 30 2002, 6:42 PM
Dear George,
I’m also on the BANNED list. Is there anything I can do to be removed there from? I have an overwhelming desire to read about boys’ pants, but being from a single-parent family, I don’t have a photo to send you.
With my very best wishes for the future,
Darwinian Man
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Peter W
Not BANNED
September 30 2002, 8:29 PM
Thank you for not putting me on the BANNED list, George. I would very much like to be a member in your group but only if you change its name. BoysBareBottomsAndPants may attract the wrong sort of member. I gather that you are fairly new to the net and may not realise that it is filled with dirty old men who spend weeks on end drooling over pictures of boys’ bottoms and pants.
What do you think of “Bottom Marks” as a name for your group?
I congratulate you on the formation of your group and wish you all the success that you would wish for yourself and members.
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Ralphy
BANNED/Not BANNED
September 30 2002, 9:06 PM
I regret to inform you that Peter W and Mike who both sent excellent messages to us this evening are now on the BANNED list of George’s new group, according to our mole.
Darwinian Man, however, has been removed from the list and I hope that you will be joining this prestigious group, Gladys.
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George
Banned
September 30 2002, 11:51 PM
I think it is very sad that the group has nothing better to do than mock and state things that are not true. I have a list of banned EM and ISP numbers, but are only known to me. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar.
I have only banned members, not those that question others about factual content, but those who on this site and others flame members and are abusive or have complained about sites and got them removed from Yahoo.
The idea of an admin site is to prevent those that are offended about factual accounts of cp be it bare or otherwise. It is up to members to decide, and keep private, views as to if posts are true or false. It just takes one complaint to Yahoo and the site gets pyulled. Indeed, no doubt, if somebody were to complain about this site it would get closed down. Not only for what it says about cp but tghe way members are abused. This infringes Code of Conduct of sites. An admin helps protect the site. It is only time before such sites that exist in the public directory now go down.
As to what I will ask. It is simple. You list any EM addresses you use on CP sites so that they can be checked. ISP numbers can do this. Those that have been abusive,or flaming others, will not be admitted. Those that do not list all CP sites they are on will not be admitted.
I have already over 50 members who I know I can trust. New members EM addresses will be submitted to the full membership and if no member objects they will be made members. Memberships will take ten days to approve. No photos or anything like that are needed. ARe we selective. Not realkly. The aim is to keep trouble makes out or those that try to get such sites closed down. Public membership or director listing is inviting trouble. One only has to see the Colin Farrell closure to see this. One sick person complains, and the best site on the net, factual beyond doubt, using things in public domain gets taken down
It is a sad state that Yahoo is causing
George
I hope this now allows the use of this sight for what it was intended. A debate on cp and not just trying to belittle and offend as many members as possible.
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Sarajane
Re: banned
October 1 2002, 7:27 AM
When George was exposed as a raving fantasist who'd never been a teacher or a Headmaster and who'd never smacked a schoolboy's bum in his life, didn't he promise us that he was leaving the site, never to return?
And didn't he immediately break his word by returning almost immediately - posing as his own grandson, Martin?
And now he breaks his word into even tinier pieces by returning as himself.
And hasn't the sad old fool got a bit of a nerve to talk about 'factual accounts' of CP when the simplest fact in the world is that his entire Internet life is based upon the woeful lie that he was once a Headmaster who caned boys' bottoms.
This tragic man's obsession becomes clearer when we see that even in a posting which makes no obvious reference to boys' bare bottoms, he cannot help but employ the phrase 'taken down' when referring to websites being removed.
Get well soon George
Not an Anonymous Donation
Banned, Banned, Banned
October 1 2002, 8:01 PM
For Christ’s sake, stop whinging you people! I’m banned too you know, but I don’t give a stuff! I just forget about it and try to live as normal as life as possible.
Good
luck to George! His group will fill a much-needed hole in the Internet
Not an Anonymous Donation
Re: Re: Banned, Banned, Banned
October 1 2002, 10:41 PM
Sarajane,
Sorry, it was a typing error. The sentence should read:
His group will fill half a dozen prison cells.
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Sarajane
Re: Banned, Banned, Banned
October 1 2002, 8:44 PM
NAAD,
You wish George good luck, saying his group will fill a much-needed hole in the Internet.
But . . . if the hole is much-needed, surely it would be wrong to fill it?
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Nichonettes
Re: Re: Banned, Banned, Banned
October 1 2002, 10:17 PM
Dear George,
Thank you for your message of 11.51pm yesterday in which you kindly shed some light on what must be for you and your members an intolerable situation.
Could you possibly clarify your statement which reads, “I have only banned members”. There are those, unsympathetic to our cause, who may choose to interpret this to mean that you only have members in your group that have been banned as members from other groups.
Several of our highly valued members have become members of your group and have promised to keep us posted regarding the progress of what will almost certainly be one of the most authoritative groups on the Internet.
On behalf of the moderators here may I wish you every success.
Nichonettes
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Karen
m/M N/C N/S
[Note that ‘M/m’ is ‘man on boy’ and ‘m/M N/C’ is ‘boy on man non consenting’ i.e. both paedophilia – Ed.]
October 1 2002, 11:18 PM
Dear George,
Is your group only about M/m? I don’t care much for M/M nor m/m, but I do have a fondness for m/M.
Will my interest be catered for by your members?
Congratulations on the launch of your group!
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Ralphy
No longer BANNED
October 2 2002, 10:16 PM
Dear George,
We have today removed from the BANNED list the following:
Big
Ones: sillyjilly66uk@yahoo.co.uk
The Fighting Fugger: thefightingfugger@yahoo.co.uk
With best wishes for the opening of your group,
Ralphy
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keith
Re: No longer BANNED
October 3 2002, 9:54 PM
and
i have sent george an em but he never wrote back because i wanted
to join
keith
Re:
Re: No longer BANNED
October 4 2002, 7:13 AM
so i done a search but cannot find george group does anyone know where is it?
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GEORGE
SITE
October 4 2002, 8:15 PM
It is an unlisted site to prevent trouble like with Colin Farrel site. All those who have contacted me, will be sent details of the admin site as soon as it is finished. Should be this weekend or next. Provide you complete the application form, do not have a history of flaming people, and that the existing members do not object to your membership, you would be a member in ten days from applying.
It takes time, but we have all seen how, one or two people, can ruin a site.
George
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Sarajane
Re: SITE
October 4 2002, 10:19 PM
I wonder if George the Fantasy Headmaster will simply be regurgitating old fantasies on the new fantasy site or if he's dreamed up any more fantasies about his fantasy life as fantasy headmaster who used his fantasy cane on fantasy boys' fantasy bare bottoms over a fantasy lifetime devoted to fantasy CP?
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Peter
Re: Re: SITE
October 20 2002, 1:00 PM
Has anyone actually joined this group or is it another of Georges's fantasies? I can't find it anywhere.
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message
A lurker
RE: sarahjane
October 23 2002, 1:56 PM
I wonder if there is a name for the fetish of spoiling other people's fun. If so, from reading this board I would say that sarahjane is a prime exponent. Maybe you should set up your own board dedicated to ridiculing others sarahjane? You remind me of certain children from when I was at school, eager to show off how clever you are by putting other people down. If George's postings upset you that much, maybe you should refrain from reading them.
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Steff
Re: RE: sarahjane
October 23 2002, 4:29 PM
Poor George! Can you imagine what life was like for him when he was at school? I can just see him now … the semi-retarded kid whose mother told him that he could do anything the other kids could - and he believed her. I wonder if, after being bullied off the playground, he ever tried changing clothes and coming back pretending to be somebody else? No wonder the sorry sod ended up with the sexual interests he has today. Oh well, at least he can take heart that Sarajane wasn't his prefect!
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Once Proud Member
Pants Down
November 14 2002, 8:10 PM
It is with deep regret that I have to tell you now that the Pants Club has closed.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gascp1916
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Sarajane
Re: Pants Down
November 14 2002, 8:25 PM
Could somebody have tipped off Yahoo re George's fake career and his obsession with children's bare bottoms.
I wonder?
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Not an Anonymous Donation
Re: Re: Pants Down
November 14 2002, 9:20 PM
I’m bloody devastated!
It took me two weeks get myself removed from the BANNED list, five days to complete the sodding application form and I was waiting for the members to vote on my election to the club. I knew there was a chance, a small chance, a wafer of a chance of me being black-balled, or black-pantsed as they call it, and now it’s bloody well closed!
I really did not want to do this, George, but I have had to put you in my BASTARD BOOK. Having said that, keep posting!
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Gillian
My commiserations
November 15 2002, 9:05 PM
Dear George,
I was very sorry indeed to read of the closure of your Yahoo Group. I do so hope that you will continue posting here, for as you well know, you have a great many admirers.
I suspect your group was closed by Yahoo, but I do not understand the reason why. Could you, or Martin, possibly let us know if that was the case? I appreciate that you may be upset at the moment, so perhaps rather than respond to my request publicly, you may prefer to contact me by e-mail.
I look forward to hearing from you!
With my very best wishes,
Gillian
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Daniel Johnson
Closure of "gascp1916"
November 16 2002, 6:16 PM
I am saddened by the closure of this group. Obviously, there are many who feel that a group dedicated to corporal punishment of BOYS is inherently wrong. I am sorry for that.
In my day growing up, I knew both boys and girls who got spanked, belted, paddled as discipline, but for all the girls I knew, other forms of punishment were equaly effective. Most boys I knew related much better to a little CP, since they were so "boisterous" anyway, that a little firmly applied pain to their backsides settled them right down.
Of course, there ARE pedophiles and the like, but that does not detract from the legitimate use of CP with boys. Its like saying that a knife can be used to kill or maim, so we will ban all of them, even steak knives in restaurants and scalpels in hospital operating rooms.
George, I cant find a good email address for you. Would you please send me an email. I would very much like to correspond.
Thank You,
Dan Johnson AKA welstriped@hotmail.com
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Peter
Re: Closure of "gascp1916"
November 17 2002, 9:41 AM
I agree with Daniel. What possible harm can a chap, being in the autumn of his years, do by leading a Pants Club? He takes a lot of trouble to write in Middle English and that alone should endear him to the regular clique here, of which I am not a member.
George, let us hear from you again. You are sorely missed.
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George
Address
November 17 2002, 1:51 PM
I can be reached at the following
sparetherod@afraid.co.uk
It appears that a person reported the admin site. To say the least I got a very rude and insulting em. This is the same person that got Colin Farrells site closed down. It makes me wonder why the person that has reported my site and Colin Farrells then goes on to publish full press reports on his own site. Surely, if he thinks it wrong that Colin Farrells site and mine should contain documemtation because of the people it attracts, then this must apply to his own site.
George
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Billy Biro
Re: address
November 17 2002, 2:50 PM
By George it’s good to hear from you again!
Several members have expressed grave concerns for your well-being and will be overjoyed to learn that you are still a member here.
Now that this forum has closed and the BASTARD RALPHY has ‘foutu le camp’ (as they say in the clique) it seems a wonderful opportunity for you to consider it a home-from-home. I am sure that the members here would welcome all the posts that were once intended for the members of your own group. Do you, for instance, have a ‘Tricks of the Trade’ part two?
Ignore that silly old tart Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Higgins. I have it on good authority that she’s a plumber from S****horpe.
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Sarajane
Re: address
November 17 2002, 3:04 PM
There are major differences between Colin Farrell and George.
Colin's clear intention is to present an encyclopaedic reference work dealing on a worldwide basis with CP of people of all ages.
In stark contrast, George's postings are clearly fantasy and deal only with his imaginary career as an imaginary headmaster caning the imaginary bare bottoms of imaginary boys.
I can understand why those opposed either to CP of children or to CP in general may find Colin's site objectionable but its status as a legitimate, impressive and potentially useful reference work cannot be denied.
Colin's site is clearly compiled by a person with a great interest in CP but whether that person is an angel or a devil cannot be determined merely by looking at his website.
George's postings, however, identify him very clearly as as man completely obsessed with the caning of young boys' bare bottoms. Equally clearly, he is nowhere near his claimed age of almost 90 and I believe his other identity (grandson Martin) to be closer in every respect to the real person behind the George postings.
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Gillian
Pants on Television
December 29 2002, 12:20 PM
I seldom watch television nowadays. Most of my spare time is taken up with trying to make sense of the extraordinary ‘private messages’ I receive as a member of Brutish Spanking. This evening, however, I shall be watching ‘Hot Money’ on Carlton at 9 p.m. There will be a lot of pants in it.
To George:
I hope you are well and I wish you a Happy New Year! You can come out now. The danger has passed.
[If ‘she’ is referring to Noncewatch – then oh no! we haven’t – Ed.]
Hugs and fuggs,
Gillian
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George
Re: Pants on Television
December 31 2002, 1:19 AM
Does this mean Sarajane has left!!>??
George
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Gillian
Re: Re: Pants on Television
December 31 2002, 7:23 AM
Dear George,
Sarajane is still with us, posting under a variety of names. She is harmless.
You know the danger to which I referred. It has vanished.
Keep posting!
Hugs and fuggs,
Gillian
Below it appears that ‘George’ is back under yet another assumed name
[Goodfathr (sic) aka Charles Gleason, goodfathr@aol.com , is a well known American spanking minister - www.prospank.com - slogan: ‘Suffer the little children – we make them suffer anyway’ –
His perverted pay site has very pious postings (er not) like:
‘Spanking Teenage Babysitter
An inside look at the new hottest selling teen magazine and the very special young lady behind it who turned her passion for well-behaved children into a publishing empire. An exclusive report you'll only find HERE!!’
And this:
‘Captured On Film
An
old attic, a faded picture, and recalling a very special day in the
1940s when a long overdue correction finally came to pass. A
Photographic
Memory!! ‘
And
Gleason will even provide you with the instruments of torture for
your little darlings - ‘spank with love’ as Gleason says:
‘ProSpank
now offers beautiful, handcrafted wooden spanking paddles
in two sizes.
The Naughty Brat $25.00
The Rebellious Teenager $30.00
Prices include shipping and handling.
To order, please send a cashier's check or money order to:
Z
Factor Communications
P.O. Box 71195
Madison Heights, Mi. 48071
To order by credit card, please call (218) 543-6512 ext. 35
Please
indicate size of paddle when ordering.
All paddles are custom orders, so please allow a few weeks for
delivery.’
Definitely all sounds rather pervy to us Charles, you old money-making nonce!
The sick queer nonce Brain Henderson of the Salvation Army (see Special Report 2) would fit in well here we reckon!
We might well be doing a special report on Gleason, the perverted fake cleric at some point – Ed.]
Anyway,
back to ‘George’:
New Yahoo Group
October 11 2002 at 6:35 AM
Peter
From: "mrskembling" <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JCP-Female/post
Date:
Sat Oct 5, 2002 9:51 pm
Subject: Corporal Punishment
I
have a group called
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bringbackcorporalpunishment
which is a serious site aimed at discussing such issues.
It
is not a site for fetish participants and all messages are
moderated by me.
For
those with a SERIOUS interest in the subject you may wish to know
that I have obtained, at considerable expense, the official UK
government records relating to corporal punishment over a very wide
period of time. So far we are dealing with matters from 1891 onwards.
The
first file concerns a riot at a Reformatory for Girls in
Warwickshire, England, in May 1923 and how it was effectively dealt
with at the time.
It
is my belief that the diminution of corporal punishment has led
the United Kingdom and other countries into the presently
unacceptable state.
We
are not a home for fantasists or for those whose interest in such
matters might be classified as sexual. There is no sexual content on
the site, nor will I allow it.
However,
for those genuinely interested you may find that in the
coming months the file section will provide (possibly for the first
time) an indication of how we sensibly applied these methods to
create a better society than we enjoy at this time.
These
are not inventions or fantasies. They are official Government
documents obtained from the Public Records Office in England.
Anyone
with a serious contribution to make is welcome but I restate:
it is not a home for the fetish interest in this subject.
Kate Embling (Mrs)
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Banned from Pants Club
Re: New Yahoo Group
October 11 2002, 7:16 AM
Can
this be George’s new pantophile group? But Kate Embling (Mrs)? Perhaps
it is his grandmother?
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Miles
A Puff for Kate Embling (Mrs.)
October 11 2002, 8:00 PM
The Nee-Trembling Group is a truly splendid affair. I applied to join this evening and within minutes was accepted as a member. I do, however, expect to be BANNED within the next few days.
Several
extraordinary historical documents appear in the files section.
They are of no interest to fetishists.
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David
Re: A Puff for Kate Embling (Mrs)
October 13 2002, 9:22 AM
I am amazed by the documents that Mrs. Trembling has unearthed (at considerable expense).
Can anyone confirm that they are genuine?
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jimny462
Re: Re: Re: New Yahoo Group
October 13 2002, 10:48 AM
The
Warwickshire incident is real. There was an article published about
in "Blushes" some years ago. I went to the PRO at Kew and used the
piece
nunbers given in the article to order the original documents and have
photocpies
made of them.
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David
Re: Re: Re: Re: New Yahoo Group
October 13 2002, 12:02 PM
Thanks
for the confirmation, Jimny. At first I thought that this group
was in some way associated with the BBB&P group, but now realise
that
this is not the case. (George himself is a member of the Trembling
Group).
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Banned from Pants Club
Lots of Members
October 15 2002, 7:05 PM
Sod
the pants club; I’m sticking with Mrs. Knee-Trembler. Her group
now has one hundred and thirty members. I have read their profiles and
none of them are (in Mrs. Knees-Up’s words) “fetish participants”
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Steff
Re: Lots of Members
October 16 2002, 3:44 PM
I joined the group, and it would appear that Peter has done at least some of her homework. I contacted the central PRO re: one document for which a number was provided, and it is with a great deal of pleasure that I can announce having recieved the following letter (in an impressively timely fashion) from the PRO:
Dear Ms _______
Thank you for contacting the Public Record Office.
The
PRO does indeed hold a record with the reference HO 45/14545. Dated
between 1917 and 1932, this document is entitled Knowle Hill Training
School
for Girls: model rules and corporal punishment.
Adrian
Jobson
E-Mail Duty Officer
Reader Information Services Department
Public
Record Office, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey, TW9
4DU
Telephone: +44 (0)20 8392 5200
Fax: +44 (0) 20 8392 5286
Minicom: +44 (0)20 8392 9198
I
should note, however, that this is the only document transcribed for
this group, apart from a few newspaper clippings, for which a
bibliographic
reference is made.
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Billy Biro
Re: Re: Lots of Members
October 16 2002, 6:38 PM
So
Mrs. Knees-Open is kosher then? The group certainly has some
interestingly
nom-de-plumed members such as mummyhairbrush (55/F), nannyspanks and
sublucy
(24/F), along with several of our old friends including Andrea and
Miles
on Brighton Pier.
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Banned from Pants Club
A Momentary Lapse
October 17 2002, 8:44 PM
“It is not a site for fetish participants and all messages are moderated by me”.
So writes Mrs. Kate Embling of her group. Strange then that the following should have appeared on her message board recently:
“She [the headmistress] then hoisted your skirt up and pinned it up and in my case delivered six whacks with a slipper”.
Whoever was the writer who managed to get past the moderator a cliché of fetish literature – the pinning up of a skirt? Step forward………. Mrs. Kate Embling.
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Banned from Pants Club
Rising Members
November 24 2002, 10:25 AM
I am overjoyed that several people have recently joined as members, including the indomitable Goodfather, one of the leading authorities on fladge. The group needs a few more messages, though. Mrs. Embling has not posted for many a day. I believe she is saving for to purchase more historical documents. They have, as you may know, put her to ‘considerable expense’.
Keep
joining! Keep posting!
____________________________________________________________________
Here
is a another thread from Abby’s spanking forum about a ‘perverts
paradise’ company called the Barrowfield Leather Company of Glasgow
(0141
554 7863) which claim to make leather instrument cases. The perverts,
however,
claim that the staff at Barrowfield’s will make leather belts, whips
etc
for them, if the price is right. Certainly, when we phoned these
charming
pervert lovers at Barrowfields, they cursed and swore at us and
threatened
us with violence (C U Jimmy –head-butt) So give them a ring on 0141 554
7863 and ask them all about their ‘instruments’ of er corporal
punishment!
:
Barrowfield
October 17 2002 at 4:05 PM
Bob
Sometime ago Eddy posted an article about Sadie at the Barrowfield
Leather Company in Glasgow giving demonstartions of hand strapping.
Does anyone have any further information?
Bob
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Jockie
Welcome back Bob
October 17 2002, 4:23 PM
Ah
always thought the Sadie bit wis a wind-up although the place itself
existed.
There is a phone number oan yin o ra threids frae Eddy....Dare ye tae
phone up an ask fer a beltin frae Sadie LOL !!
Jockie.
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Steve
Re: Welcome back Bob
November 7 2002, 6:46 AM
Has anyone tried ringing this number yet? Does Sadie exist? Will they make you a strap?
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Steve
Re: Re: Welcome back Bob
November 7 2002, 6:48 AM
The
number is 0141 554 7863
Bob
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Re: Re: Re: Welcome back Bob
November 7 2002, 4:42 PM
Ok, who is going to be brave or stupid enough to make that call? (and would we believe anyone who stated that Sadie belted them?).
Next time I am in Glasgow I will 'case the joint' and if it looks OK I will ask if they make fetish clothes and take it from there.
Bob
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Jockie
Re:
Re: Re: Re: Welcome back Bob
November 7 2002, 5:39 PM
Goan
yersel son...... ma Hero, so ye are! I am sure Sadie will attend
tae yer needs.
Jockie.
PS. Are ye intae fleurs or wid chocs be better tae bring ye in ra
Infirmary?
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Tawsemaker
Barrowfield
November 9 2002, 8:25 PM
I can tell you that the only sort of 'clothing' that the make is a welders apron. I have been in Barrowfield, and there is nothing to see really, apart from a busy workshop and sewing room.
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Bob
Re: Barrowfield
November 11 2002, 3:00 PM
Oh Dear another dream never to see the light of day. At least I did not make the mistake of phoning and asking for Sadie.
Bob
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jockie
Ah BUT! ..........
November 11 2002, 4:33 PM
Michael
is only referrin tae the comment ye made aboot Fetish clothing......no
aboot tawses and Sadie!
Weel if ye are too cowardy, custard Bob, I will phone up ra
morrow...........in
your name of course LOL.
Jockie.
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jockie
Ah BUT! ..........
November 11 2002, 4:35 PM
Michael
is only referrin tae the comment ye made aboot Fetish clothing......no
aboot tawses and Sadie!
Weel if ye are too cowardy, custard Bob, I will phone up ra
morrow...........in
your name of course LOL.
Jockie.
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AndyB
Re:
Ah BUT! ..........
November 19 2002, 9:43 AM
I've phoned Barrowfield, and spoke to one of the workshop lads - think his name was John. He was willing to make me a "School Belt" for about £28.00. He said that he has made a few, but requires the required size.
Do you know George or anyone else who is setting up or running ‘pants clubs’?
Do you know any of the perverts on the Abby’s spanking forum, whose archive is still online at:
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/107983
(We have a mirror which we might put up if this is taken down)
Then do please let us know, in complete confidence of course, at noncewatch@redwatch.org and at jounoscum@hushmail.com
Noncewatch
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